1. Here are a couple of bags in my "project pile" that I'd appreciate having authenticated:
    1) Binocular Bag
    Dimensions: 9" x 9" x 3.5" with a 16" strap drop
    Comments: The hardware is odd - the turnlock is brass, but the rings attaching the straps to the bag are nickel-colored. The buckle looks nickle-colored with an overlay of brass coloring that is rubbing off. Is this a red flag, or could there be some reasonable explanation for this?
    Also, the creed is difficult to read, so I've tried adjusting the contrast in my photo editor to help the stamping stand out more.

    2) Lunch Box
    Dimensions: 7" x 9" x 3.5" with a 25" strap drop
    Different Colored hardware.JPGBinoc.JPGBinocBack.JPGBinocopen.JPGBinocCreed.JPGlunchfront.JPGLunchback.JPGLunchTop2.JPGLunchreed.jpgLunchinside.JPG
  2. The lunch box looks good. The first bag is fake.
  3. The first one is probably fake.
    I'd like to see a better photo of the creed stamp and serial number of the "Binocular Bag" - from a little farther away, and straight on, not angled. The third digit isn't what it should be and I can't read the first 2 at all. There's at least one more problem besides the hardware problems you already mentioned. When and where did you buy it, and do you still have the link for the original selling site or auction?
  4. Many thanks, Hyacinth and Whateve for your help! Well, this is just getting embarrassing - when I went to take a photo of the creed straight-on, I realized that the creed itself is angled! Nonetheless, I tried getting better photos of it by angling the camera, and am attaching them. I'm wondering if another thing wrong with it is the color of the stitching as well as the overall shape? I purchased the bag recently from someone on eBay from whom I had received a very nice bag before that was authenticated here, and expected to receive another one of the same quality. When I go back to look at the listing more carefully, it's evident that the strap rings are a different color than the turnlock. Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-coach-bucket-bag-/112334723494?hash=item1a27abd9a6%3Ag%3APwEAAOSw4A5YnJff&nma=true&si=lHBmeTZjnDQ49e8kasF7hStDE3U%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    I've been careless lately; as long as I'm embarrassing myself I should say I also recently purchased another bag without seeing the creed because I wanted to get it before the auction ended. I've already contacted the seller and we have made arrangements for me to return it. There was no need to ask you to look at that one! I'm attaching a photo of the creed so you can see why. :smile:
  5. #21066Mar 20, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2017
    Now do you understand why we keep telling posters over and over to NEVER buy a Coach without seeing a clear photo of the creed and serial number? And why they should always authenticate them here first before buying? Just because a seller has one (possibly) genuine bag doesn't mean that all of them are.

    ETA - Here's what I mean. Your seller steviewandersvintage just had a Completed listing for "Black Vintage Coach Mini-messenger Bag" again with no creed photo. The seller claims the serial number is J4D-9715 which belongs to a Legacy Turnlock Companion Flap. Trouble is, the date code in the serial number is for September 1994 and that 9715 style wasn't even introduced until late 2001.


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  7. BTW, sorry I didn't already say it, but be sure to GET YOUR MONEY BACK FOR BOTH BAGS. And because it bears repeating, NEVER buy a Coach unless the seller shows a clear READABLE photo of the creed stamp and serial number. NEVER. Ebay allows a seller 12 free photos in each listing, if the seller you're looking at can't be bothered to take photos of all the important details, find a seller who does.
  8. That's great to know, thanks for your reply!
  9. Perhaps I'm off-base here and if so, I apologize but with a poster and a Facebook seller with such similar IDs, I can't help but assume you're posting your own listings.

    While here on Coach, I appreciate sellers who try to do their due diligence and will help authenticate their items, TPF rules disallow the posting of your own items.

    In the future, if you have items for which you need authentications, please just post pictures and not links to where the items are being sold.
  10. It's also why the first post of the thread shows the posting format and information we need and why we want to see links to listings and seller IDs.

  11. Thank you. I should get the bag in the next few days. Your information is very helpful. And I will follow up.

    I mainly am at one watch form, and while we do not have authenticators, we generally will point out the specific issues we see on a watch and why it is incorrect. I am only able to assist with one specific brand, as the knowledge base for more than one brand would be too difficult/time consuming for me. There are a large number of us, so we have also had success reporting the fakes we see on eBay so that they get removed. However, it seems that scammers are always trying new things. So we also try an educate new message board members on the number of different scams these folks try. All almost identical to what you are doing here.
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  12. Great - thanks!